Balancing Act – Carla Harvey of Butcher Babies


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Butcher Babies co-vocalist Carla Harvey issued her first book titled Death & Other Dances (available via www.carlaharvey.bigcartel.com). She shared stories about her pre-Butcher Babies’ life, including growing up in Michigan and relocating to Los Angeles to pursue music, as well as working as a stripper and a mortician.

She is open about her life as a stripper, which she wrote about in her book. Fairly candid about that period of her life, Harvey talked about how she became attracted to this.

I write about that in my book. I find it funny people always think that strippers are horrible human beings with daddy issues and blah blah blah…yeah yeah sure maybe I have some daddy issues growing from my abandonment of my father, but my fascination with becoming a stripper started when I was very, very young child. Way before my parents separated. Way before my father was out of my life. They brought me back a doll from Las Vegas on a stand and it was a showgirl doll with a costume on. I was so fascinated by that doll and I wanted to look like a doll, be the doll and I wanted to be a showgirl or a stripper.”

I always give the rest to hair metal. I don’t think there’s any girl who used to take off her clothes and dance around the room to ‘Girls Girls Girls’…that probably didn’t help! I’ve always been very sexual. I’ve always wanted to be a dancer. I think if you brave it for a short period of time, it’s not a big deal. For me, it helped me grow as a person in a couple different ways. I was very shy. I would never talk to people one on one ever. It helped me open up. It helped me talk to people. In certain ways it was a good thing. If you get stuck there too long, you’re around the wrong people. I started doing drugs. But not all of it was bad.”

Harvey also shared how she found a brief career as a mortician and her fascination with death, something many musicians from Jonathan Davis (Korn) to Gen (Genitorturers) have been enamored with.

What is the basic attraction to death for musicians? “I don’t know but for me, I was always fascinated by death since I was a kid,” she said. “The first chapter of my book, I talk about that fascination. I’m sure it’s the same with a lot of people since they were a child, and I think musicians more so because we’re creative people and things people wonders about. I don’t know. Maybe we’re weirdos.”

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Another connection has been select goth and metal people have been connected to this profession. Television shows such as
NCIS have a gothic looking coroner (Pauley Perrette’s Abby Sciuto character) have portrayed such people in those professions. But very seldomly do those folks last.

It’s funny because I went to mortuary school – for me it was fulfilling a life long dream. There were a few kids in my class who were goth kids. As soon as the first embalmment lab hit, they were all gone. They couldn’t handle it. I think a lot of people think embalmment is very rock n roll, very cool and tough and they want to do it, but when it comes down to it, it’s a very hard job. It takes extreme empathy to do it. It’s definitely not a job that people could do.”

School was something she did well in and managed to excel during her years there. She got good grades and was at the top of her class. Plus being in Mortuary College, science was also one of her best subjects.


“I was always great at science. It was one of my best subjects in school. I’ve always gotten straight A’s and on the dean’s list and all of that. I think a lot of times in my youth I was very bored, did drugs and stuff like that. I’ve always gotten great grades and always been smart. I think my first semester was chemistry, anatomy, physiology, embalming, mortuary law and all of that stuff. I hadn’t been in school in a very long time when I went back, but it was great to dive into it and let my brain be full of that kind of stuff than drugs.”

There’s no way that I could do drugs during a time like that at 8 in the morning. That really helped me stay sober knowing that I had to do that if I wanted to graduate that program. I graduated on the dean’s list. It was a turning point in my life, going from being a complete drug addict to being a college graduate on the dean’s list within a couple year’s time. That really saved me.”

So how long did she work in this field? “I was in school for a couple of years and I practiced for about two years. My band started to…then I couldn’t do it any more. It’s a very demanding job – no time off, no vacations. You really can’t have a full time job like that and do music. Obviously at this point in my life I choose music. It’s my dream.”

I think one day I might go back into it. I’d like to be a funeral director or a grief counselor. I like to help people and I have a lot of fans who have had loss in their lives reach out to me for grief counseling. I really enjoy that. Maybe I’ll do that again but I also love music so much that I don’t see myself stopping that any time soon.”

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Life Gets Better- Carla Harvey Coates Talks About Her Book


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Following a dream of becoming a musician has become a long fascination for many people. It has become a classic story of one moving to Hollywood to pursue their passion of becoming a rockstar, and often not ending well.

Long before she became a Butcher Babies member, co-frontwoman Carla Harvey loved to read and books were another passion of hers. She put that into her book, Death & Other Dances, sharing stories of her pre-band life and the obstacles she endured and led her into her current life.

It is but at the same time it was something I wanted to do. I’m a big fan of literature. I was a chubby, buck toothed kid who spent a lot of my time by myself, reading books and listening to heavy metal. It was just natural that I’d want to write my own book one day. I just had to find what I wanted to write about,” she said.

I’m a big fan of authors like [Charles] Bukowski and Henry Rollins that takes elements from their own lives and write stories like that. Especially Bukowski, who uses an alias in his books – he doesn’t use his real name. That’s what I wanted to do with mine.”

I didn’t want to write a memoire because I don’t like the word, and it comes across wrong…people expect you to write a book about your experiences as a musician, and it’s not that at all,” she added.


Some of these stories inspired the songwriting on
Goliath (Century Media), Harvey’s band the Butcher Babies’ debut album. While she did not go into detail over which songs were inspired by what event, her book instead paints a vivid image of her life in detail.

Of course, all of our songs, especially on Goliath,” she said. “It’s our debut album so all of our thoughts and feelings that we’ve had collectively between me and Heidi [Shepherd] over the years went into that. Even parts of my book were written down in my journal before I completely wrote the book had been featured in songs. Heidi and I both have kept a notebook full of stuff that we’ve written our whole lives and we pull from those when we write our songs. A lot of the emotions that I felt writing this book are also used in the songs we write.”

She made it clear that this book is not about her time in the band and instead leans more towards her time prior to then.

I didn’t want to put in any Butcher Babies stuff. I wanted it to be about stuff I had done before. I didn’t want it to be a memoire about a girl in a band,” she said.

Instead Death & Other Dances covers her pre-band life including her time as a stripper, and later going to Mortuary College and becoming a mortician and hospice volunteer. She used this as a starting point as her inspiration towards writing her book. “Basically I started writing after I was a hospice volunteer and I saw a correlation between my patients in hospice and my clients at a strip club when I was a stripper. That correlation was simply in both careers I was dealing with people who were very alienated and sometimes holding someone’s hand, giving them a hug and allowing them to talk about themselves or what’s going on in their lives, makes a huge difference in their attitude in their lives.”

So I thought it was a pretty powerful thing, that correlation between the careers so I expanded on it and started writing this book. I initially was going to write about other people, but then I thought about it and realized that the things that I had been helping other people with my whole life, was the problems I had been dealing with and not attending to. So it became more about me than I thought it would. So it became a cathartic experience writing it down on paper.”

Despite the things she wrote about in her book, music was always something she did throughout that time. Harvey originally moved to Los Angeles to pursue music but got sidetracked with obstacles that she shared in her book.

No I played music for the first couple of years I was in LA,” she said, explaining the timeline of when music was and was not happening in her life. “I played in bands all through high school and when I first moved to LA. Then I got involved in drugs so I didn’t put the effort into a band. Then I was working with Playboy for a couple of years. So I didn’t have time. After I left Playboy, I went to mortuary school and I didn’t have any time then. Then it became the right time again. I saw an ad for a cover band and I joined it and the rest is history.”

I always wrote stuff on my own. I play a little guitar and a little bass. I thought that part of my life was over. I’m glad I didn’t give up on it because it was literally just beginning,” she added.

Even though the stories in her book happened prior to the band’s formation, Harvey’s bandmates had previously heard many of these stories before. “I’ve known Heidi [Shepherd, Butcher Babies co-vocalist] for eight years now we started working together. She knows all of my deepest and darkest secrets. I’ve known Henry [Flury, guitarist] for ten years. These are my good friends. They know what I’ve been through and I know what they’ve been through. We all encourage each other all the time.”

Writing the book was not the hardest part for her, but reliving what she went through and organizing her thoughts was the challenging part: “It really wasn’t hard, as far as people reading it. I think the hardest part was actually digging in myself and allowing myself to write down on paper that I had been afraid to acknowledge. But that was for myself and not for people to read. But I got it all out. There were times when I looked it over again and I thought to myself ‘oh my gosh…I wouldn’t want people to read this.’ Then the end of the day I decided that I would leave it alone and not touch it any more. It would take away from it because people can see honesty, and when you’re honest they enjoy it more, even if people don’t agree with everything that you’ve done or everything that you say. They appreciate honesty.”

I guess looking back it was more like I had forgotten about some things I had been through. Wow why did I do that? That was fucking stupid. Why did I let myself get manipulated by that person? Why did I let that person into my life? I emphasized that I’m still here. I’m surprised that I’m alive sometimes. I’m really lucky that in this point in my life I’m able to live my dream after everything I’ve been through. So through all the things you go through in your life, it makes you who you are, makes you stronger, blah blah blah and all that. It may sound cheesy but it’s important for kids to know that. No matter what you’re going through, your life will get better, if you stay on the right path. I really hate it when I hear kids or young adults in their 20s say they want to kill themselves, thinking their lives are that fucking horrible they want to oust themselves. Life always gets better.”

 

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While her story sadly is a common story for many people who succumb to the pressures of so called failure of not making it or battling personal demons, Harvey avoided becoming a Hollywood cliché and found a positive way out to lead her into where she is today. She wanted to share her story and always finds time to help those in need of hearing their dilemmas in life.

You have to change your life at the right time. I did do a lot of drugs and I was very open about that because I want people to know that it may not ruin right now but maybe a year or three years from now, it will ruin your life if you keep doing that. There’s no benefit. I don’t care if you think you’re more creative or hotter or cooler when you’re doing drugs. For me, it was a way of self-medicating a lot of issues I had since I was a kid. Once I was able to come to terms with those things and write about it and how to heal myself…and going to mortuary school and embalming people like toddlers, grandmothers and 14 year old girls, I realized how short life is and wasting my time shoving drugs up my nose when I could be following my dreams and doing what I came to Hollywood to do, which is being a musician.”

To buy Death & Other Dances, go to:

www.carlaharvey.bigcartel.com

 

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Butcher Babies Release Covers Album, Kick-Off Headline Tour


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Butcher Babies have released a five song EP called Uncovered, which came out September 30th via Century Media Records, and also in time for the band’s first headlining tour across the United States.

Consisting of five eclectic versions of songs hand picked by the band members themselves, they placed their spin on those tunes and went to town upon each one. Band co-vocalist Carla Harvey Coates spoke to Ghost Cult Magazine Senior Editor Rei Nishmoto about the making of Uncovered.

All the songs we chose sound amazing. We worked with Logan Mader. I can’t wait for it to come out. We’ll definitely be playing songs from the EP on tour this fall on our headlining tour.”

I’m really excited about the EP. We all chose a song that was near and dear to us growing up,” she said. “I chose ‘They’re Coming To Take Me Away’ by Napoleon XIV, which is kind of a joke song, but my step dad, who is insane, used to play over and over again in the car stereo when I was a kid. He was holding the steering wheel and have this really weird smile on his face while he would do it, and it would freak me out. So I chose that song. We made it into our own. It’s amazing. It was so much fun.”

Heidi chose the Osmonds ‘Crazy Horses’ – another great choice. It was also a lot of fun to do that one as well. Everyone’s tripping out on that song.”

Henry mentioned an S.O.D. song. We chose ‘Pussy Whipped’ over the song he chose because it was such a…we thought with two girls being in the band, what a perfect song. It’s ironic we’re singing it also.”

 

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Butcher Babies, Uncovered Track Listing

1. Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers (Originally by ZZ Top)
2. They’re Coming to Take Me Away (Originally by Napoleon XIV)
3. Don’t Give a F–k (Originally by Suicidal Tendencies)
4. Crazy Horses (Originally by The Osmonds)
5. Pussy Whipped ((Originally by S.O.D.)

Remaining tour dates:


Oct 10: Santos Party House – New York, NY
Oct 11: District N9ne – Philadelphia, PA
Oct 12: Empire – West Springfield, VA
Oct 14: The Masquerade – Atlanta, GA
Oct 16: Scout Bar – Houston, TX
Oct 17: House of Rock – Corpus Christi, TX
Oct 18: Backstage Live – San Antonio, TX
Oct 19: Jake’s Backroom – Lubbock, TX
Oct 21: The Black Sheep – Colorado Springs, CO
Oct 22: Mesa Theatre – Grand Junction, CO
Oct 23: Backstage Bar – Las Vegas, NV
Oct 24-25: Knotfest – Devore, CA

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